[Dustin]

Originally Posted by teamobidel

dustin. why do you keep acting like a character needs a black belt degree to be put into a game? its a game. just a game. nothing more. and who made you an expert on martial arts anyway. besides raging blast like tenkaichi series is a 50%shooter/50%fighter game. you're acting like its Tekken or something.

I've played practically every Dragonball Z fighting game created, and nowhere have I seen where DBZ action would be put to shame by guns. I don't see how Tenkaichi is 50% Shooter/50% Fighting. Please explain. If you mean how they changed around the fighting mechanics to behave less like a traditional Fighting Game engine, then I believe you are wrong. No matter how much the fighting mechanics have changed over the years, it still remains a Fighting Game. No signs of it becoming a Shooter anytime soon. Plus all the Z Fighters can fly. Do you think a bullet will catch someone who can alter their course of direction with a simple teleportation or jetting upwards?

Can Launch fly? No. And since using those Capsule Corp Flyers would more or less make little to no sense, I don't see Launch making it into any of these games unless she used the same Jetpack niche as Hercule. Unless she learns how to fly similar to how Videl did (which I heavily doubt she will), or once again, the Jetpack, as well as some kind of fighting skills, she will NEVER make it into a DBZ Fighting Game.

Which takes me back to before.

FIGHTING. GAME.

Stop being so blasted snide.
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In accordance with Raging Blast itself, I've noticed how they polished Burst Limit's graphics to an almost perfect tee. I still think the character models could have used the traditional cel shaded black outline. When they blend in with their surroundings, it seems boring. But yeah. Otherwise, the animations are perfect.

Then there's the cutscene thing; why are they still so lackluster? Honestly, I liked the cutscenes from Budokai I more than these. These seem to unsuspenseful despite the beautiful character models.

[teamobidel]

you cant see how tenkaichi series and rb are 50%shooter/50%fighting? dust are you blind??? what gives me the feeling that you suck at these dbz games? i bet u dont have any skills or talent at any fighting games. you say that you've played every dbz fighting game? congrats?!?! let me give u some info, while u were still in diapers i was playing the very first street fighter game ,SF1, in the arcades and laundrymats---and SF1 IS THE FATHER OF ALL FIGHTING GAMES. so dont go posting like ur an expert on fighting games, im sure if we were to compete against each other i would destroy u ,whether it be dbz budokai1,2,3,tenk1,2,3,superdbz,dbzIW, any other dbz game,including all i've never played on portables,ps1,xbox,BL,japan only,---what am i saying---i'll beat you on any fighting game,on any system,from any era; amateur,....i'll show u moves u or the games' programmers didn't even think were possible. stop trying to instigate somethin' and start taking your psychiatric meds. your tripping hard,dude.+your still trying to exclude Launch with irrational points, no one in their right mind is backing your stance on this up.haven't u noticed?

[DBZonmymind]

i think they should have a character creation on the next dbz game they make

[RX-78MajiGundam]

Originally Posted by teamobidel

you cant see how tenkaichi series and rb are 50%shooter/50%fighting? dust are you blind??? what gives me the feeling that you suck at these dbz games? i bet u dont have any skills or talent at any fighting games. you say that you've played every dbz fighting game? congrats?!?! let me give u some info, while u were still in diapers i was playing the very first street fighter game ,SF1, in the arcades and laundrymats---and SF1 IS THE FATHER OF ALL FIGHTING GAMES. so dont go posting like ur an expert on fighting games, im sure if we were to compete against each other i would destroy u ,whether it be dbz budokai1,2,3,tenk1,2,3,superdbz,dbzIW, any other dbz game,including all i've never played on portables,ps1,xbox,BL,japan only,---what am i saying---i'll beat you on any fighting game,on any system,from any era; amateur,....i'll show u moves u or the games' programmers didn't even think were possible. stop trying to instigate somethin' and start taking your psychiatric meds. your tripping hard,dude.+your still trying to exclude Launch with irrational points, no one in their right mind is backing your stance on this up.haven't u noticed?

dude cmon. why hell you getting so heated about this? your acting very immature and ruining wats suppose to be a DISCUSSION. a bit of wat dustin said is right. dbz rb is a fighting game. dustin said to explain about why you consider it to be 50% shooter and you couldnt even do that. this is a discussion so instead ranting on about how youll beat him. back up your opinions with points. also why should launch be in the game. how many times have you seen her fight? dbz game creators should be concentrating more about gameplay perfection and not useless characters. its a waste of memory and space.

[RX-78MajiGundam]

Originally Posted by DBZonmymind

i think they should have a character creation on the next dbz game they make

that sounds pretty cool. it did work well in mortal kombat. im sure it'll be even better in this considering there's less specials and button combinations to remember.

[teamobidel]

hey dust, there is someone that actually agrees with you. another genius. look , haven't u ever blasted the opponent where the opp gets their lock on discontinued and then in that short amount of time u can hide in the enviornment whether behind buildings or rocks(helps if u lock off targeting urself to raise chances of hiding from opponent quickly), to then wait until u see opp with their back turned to u(opp looking around for u) so u then lock back on and fire special at their back, rehiding in another position and repeating as much as possible. OR locking off while opp is in need of ki charging, and ki blasting large buildings or rocks or boulders next to opp so objects fall on them and stun them. haven't u guys ever used these strategies??? LASTLY, many websites in commiting overviews,reviews, and previews have listed the tenkaichi series as a shooter or shooter/fighter or a just a fighter. but it's never been considered strictly a fighter by 100% of websites 100% of the time its been discussed. i'm tired of pointing out the obvious to the slow-witted.

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by teamobidel

hey dust, there is someone that actually agrees with you. another genius. look , haven't u ever blasted the opponent where the opp gets their lock on discontinued and then in that short amount of time u can hide in the enviornment whether behind buildings or rocks(helps if u lock off targeting urself to raise chances of hiding from opponent quickly), to then wait until u see opp with their back turned to u(opp looking around for u) so u then lock back on and fire special at their back, rehiding in another position and repeating as much as possible. OR locking off while opp is in need of ki charging, and ki blasting large buildings or rocks or boulders next to opp so objects fall on them and stun them. haven't u guys ever used these strategies??? LASTLY, many websites in commiting overviews,reviews, and previews have listed the tenkaichi series as a shooter or shooter/fighter or a just a fighter. but it's never been considered strictly a fighter by 100% of websites 100% of the time its been discussed. i'm tired of pointing out the obvious to the slow-witted.

You don't even use grammar. I don't care about the issue of ki blasting, that doesn't make it a shooter. What use would Launch's guns be anyway, hm? It's not like they can actually HURT more than half the cast of DBZ. Can a bullet destroy a building? Hell no. Can a bullet destroy a boulder or a mountain? Obviously not. Launch is a useless character, and your fantasies about her are dumb.

And you've also forgotten about one thing.

If you're going to add Launch to a DBZ game, you may as well add the FARMER WITH A SHOTGUN. As well as the wolf man with the pocket knife. And the girl who tried to seduce everyone during one of the Tournaments. As well as every non-special character that gets treated as a punching bag during the filler arcs of Dragon Ball and Dragon Ball Z. Mainly the people who get raped by the Z Fighter cast in the World Tournaments.

Or did you forget about them? Yeah, you probably did. Your explanation makes no sense or difference in the sense that DBZ will alays stay within the realm of fighting games, no matter how much they change the game mechanics. The only reason ki attacks and beam blasts work much better in the Tenkaichi games is because they are more effective in the show. Heat vs Kinetic energy, heat will always come out on top.

Your useless attempts at bragging do not affect me. Your immaturity is clearly evident in your posts. Please stop. You know nothing about DBZ and the characters, and you should stop pretending that you do.

What the hell does Street Fighter have to do with this anyway? Nothing, I'm sure, aside from the fact that it's a fighting game and that you're trying to boost your falling ego with something completely irrelevant. Your responses are the irrational ones, not mine. At least I put sense into my arguments.

Besides, the first Street Fighter was the most terrible fighting game you could ever be proud to brag about your prowess in. There's nothing to be proud of there, so your "logic" fails again.

[teamobidel]

Okay dustin, I know what you're trying to do. You got some sick satisfaction at accomplishing to get ackofgod riled up and causing his temper to swell,getting him banned, but it's not going to work on me. I'm not going to swear or curse, no matter how much you try to play the part of an instigater. First of all, I told you that other gaming websites have called and classified the tenkaichi series as a shooter, partial shooter, or just as a strictly fighter game. It's just not me who's called it a partial shooter-fighting game. Look at as many gaming sites as you can, and you'll see for yourself. If it IS strictly a fighting game, then let me ask you this. How many "fighting" games do you know of that uses a TARGETING LOCK ON system? Does tekken, soul calibur, sf, kof, mortal combat, or any other game series that falls under the category of fighter use a necessary lock on targeting system? Well? Go on, take your time to try to respond with a valid rebuttal to my question.Good luck with that. Second of all, the first,original, street fighter game was the GREATEST fighting game of it's time, and no other fighting game of it's time(late 80's-early 90's) could come close to it's gameplay. Not until sf2 2 or 3 years later. You would know that, if you weren't suckling your thumb and soiling your diapers at the time when I was playing it in the arcades in those years. Thirdly, I just used abbreviations in my last post to save time , I rarely misspell, use grammar incorrectly, or misuse syntax. By the way, you misspelled the word always in your last post, the least you could do is edit your post after reviewing it. Fourth, I'll admit that I don't know everything about dbz, since I haven't seen every db or dbz movie, or read the manga, but while you were watching that act of atrocity, that mutilation of a wonderful work of art by the american dubbing corps called dragonball z, I was watching it as God, Nature, and the Universe intended----UNEDITED!!! To explain, I only watch anime either in spanish(mexican,argentinian,or spanish dubbed) or in it's native japanese with spanish subtitles. What's the big difference, you ask, between mexican/spanish/argentinian dubbing/subbing companies and american dubbing/subbing companies? The difference between night and day, heaven and hell, that's what. The subtitling/dubbing companies of these spanish countries do not edit, modify, or censor anime to even the smallest degree. That means that everything from the original version is intact. The original soundtrack, the explicit violence, the use of strong language and cursing, nudity(something that can't even be shown in japan because of a law going back to the year 1908 where the showing of male and female genitalia is forbidden to be shown, or depicted on any level, in any mass media outlet-that includes anime or manga---don't think that just because you can see "little goku" here that they, the japanese, can see it there),blood, gore, sexual suggestions and themes, all scenes and episodes 100% intact, and the near perfect translation of the original dialogue. While you were watching that hacked up, mutilated, stupified, dumbified,massively edited,warped, modified "G rated", dialogue-cheesy version of dragonball z by Funimation/Saban/Ocean Group--- I was watching the Intertrak(mex dubbing corp) version which is even better in terms of voice acting and authenticity; in terms of revealment of certain things (censored parts in japan-mostly genital nudity) than the original japanese version. You probably even think that no talent Bruce Faulkner is the composer for dragonball z and not Shunsuke Kikuchi, the great orchestral composer of many masterful works, including Mazinger Z anime. You also probably think that goku's ultimate special is called the spirit bomb and not iki bomu, or that Mr. Satan's daughter is called Videl when it's actually Bidel. Or that goku's brother is named raditz when it's actually raddox. Or that what is written on the demon ogres' shirts in other world is HFIL, but in actuality it's HELL. I know these things because even the names of special attacks and character's names remain intact and unchanged by Intertrak(mexican dubbing company). You've never even really seen anime if you have only seen anime "filtered through" american subbing/dubbing companies, whether on tv or dvd.You don't even know what is REALLY being said or done in anime. I don't blame your total ignorance in terms of anime on you. The american dubbing companies are partly to blame-by not giving you the option of seeing it in its "unruined" form, but I do blame you for your unsupported arrogance while having never experienced anime in it's greatest form; after dubbed by the spanish speaking companies in prior mentioned countries.{remember, in many ways spanish dub animes are better than even japanese original versions, and i've seen both} You remind me of Alicia Silverstone---cause your Clueless. Are you sure I don't know anything about dbz? Word of advice, STOP watching anime after the american dub/sub companies are done with them. Either watch fansubs or watch dubs from another english speaking country that doesn't edit everything out, from the original music-through the more contraversial elements of an anime--up to maintaining a much more precise translation of the original dialogue that is, by the way, adult, sophisticated, splenid, near poetic, and expertly written. STAY AWAY from any anime that filters through an american dub corp, even the subtitled dvds. Trust me, you'll thank me later for it. Lastly, if Spike and Atari can put Arale in tenkaichi 3, they can put Launch in a dbz game as well; and I'm still sure you suck at fighting games. So stick to what you do best, playing E rated super mario bros. and watching G rated carebears cartoons and leave anime and fighting games to the real men who are actually aware of what is going on in the world around them.

[Dustin]

Originally Posted by teamobidel

Okay dustin, I know what you're trying to do. You got some sick satisfaction at accomplishing to get ackofgod riled up and causing his temper to swell,getting him banned, but it's not going to work on me. I'm not going to swear or curse, no matter how much you try to play the part of an instigater. First of all, I told you that other gaming websites have called and classified the tenkaichi series as a shooter, partial shooter, or just as a strictly fighter game. It's just not me who's called it a partial shooter-fighting game. Look at as many gaming sites as you can, and you'll see for yourself. If it IS strictly a fighting game, then let me ask you this. How many "fighting" games do you know of that uses a TARGETING LOCK ON system? Does tekken, soul calibur, sf, kof, mortal combat, or any other game series that falls under the category of fighter use a necessary lock on targeting system? Well? Go on, take your time to try to respond with a valid rebuttal to my question.Good luck with that. Second of all, the first,original, street fighter game was the GREATEST fighting game of it's time, and no other fighting game of it's time(late 80's-early 90's) could come close to it's gameplay. Not until sf2 2 or 3 years later. You would know that, if you weren't suckling your thumb and soiling your diapers at the time when I was playing it in the arcades in those years. Thirdly, I just used abbreviations in my last post to save time , I rarely misspell, use grammar incorrectly, or misuse syntax. By the way, you misspelled the word always in your last post, the least you could do is edit your post after reviewing it. Fourth, I'll admit that I don't know everything about dbz, since I haven't seen every db or dbz movie, or read the manga, but while you were watching that act of atrocity, that mutilation of a wonderful work of art by the american dubbing corps called dragonball z, I was watching it as God, Nature, and the Universe intended----UNEDITED!!! To explain, I only watch anime either in spanish(mexican,argentinian,or spanish dubbed) or in it's native japanese with spanish subtitles. What's the big difference, you ask, between mexican/spanish/argentinian dubbing/subbing companies and american dubbing/subbing companies? The difference between night and day, heaven and hell, that's what. The subtitling/dubbing companies of these spanish countries do not edit, modify, or censor anime to even the smallest degree. That means that everything from the original version is intact. The original soundtrack, the explicit violence, the use of strong language and cursing, nudity(something that can't even be shown in japan because of a law going back to the year 1908 where the showing of male and female genitalia is forbidden to be shown, or depicted on any level, in any mass media outlet-that includes anime or manga---don't think that just because you can see "little goku" here that they, the japanese, can see it there),blood, gore, sexual suggestions and themes, all scenes and episodes 100% intact, and the near perfect translation of the original dialogue. While you were watching that hacked up, mutilated, stupified, dumbified,massively edited,warped, modified "G rated", dialogue-cheesy version of dragonball z by Funimation/Saban/Ocean Group--- I was watching the Intertrak(mex dubbing corp) version which is even better in terms of voice acting and authenticity; in terms of revealment of certain things (censored parts in japan-mostly genital nudity) than the original japanese version. You probably even think that no talent Bruce Faulkner is the composer for dragonball z and not Shunsuke Kikuchi, the great orchestral composer of many masterful works, including Mazinger Z anime. You also probably think that goku's ultimate special is called the spirit bomb and not iki bomu, or that Mr. Satan's daughter is called Videl when it's actually Bidel. Or that goku's brother is named raditz when it's actually raddox. Or that what is written on the demon ogres' shirts in other world is HFIL, but in actuality it's HELL. I know these things because even the names of special attacks and character's names remain intact and unchanged by Intertrak(mexican dubbing company). You've never even really seen anime if you have only seen anime "filtered through" american subbing/dubbing companies, whether on tv or dvd.You don't even know what is REALLY being said or done in anime. I don't blame your total ignorance in terms of anime on you. The american dubbing companies are partly to blame-by not giving you the option of seeing it in its "unruined" form, but I do blame you for your unsupported arrogance while having never experienced anime in it's greatest form; after dubbed by the spanish speaking companies in prior mentioned countries.{remember, in many ways spanish dub animes are better than even japanese original versions, and i've seen both} You remind me of Alicia Silverstone---cause your Clueless. Are you sure I don't know anything about dbz? Word of advice, STOP watching anime after the american dub/sub companies are done with them. Either watch fansubs or watch dubs from another english speaking country that doesn't edit everything out, from the original music-through the more contraversial elements of an anime--up to maintaining a much more precise translation of the original dialogue that is, by the way, adult, sophisticated, splenid, near poetic, and expertly written. STAY AWAY from any anime that filters through an american dub corp, even the subtitled dvds. Trust me, you'll thank me later for it. Lastly, if Spike and Atari can put Arale in tenkaichi 3, they can put Launch in a dbz game as well; and I'm still sure you suck at fighting games. So stick to what you do best, playing E rated super mario bros. and watching G rated carebears cartoons and leave anime and fighting games to the real men who are actually aware of what is going on in the world around them.

Haha what

I couldn't understand any of what you just said so I'll just take it as "Sorry I have no life".

You're answering questions that I haven't even asked you, assuming that I have asked these questions, making assumptions and claiming that you know me when you clearly don't, and are easily digging your own e-grave.

The only reason Arale was in Tenkaichi 3 was because she has super strength. She actually is super strong and was a challenge for Goku. She had physical prowess.

[Pash Master]

Alright, I'm locking up the topic now. Seriously guys, a little control next time would be nice.