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Old 11-20-2009, 09:54 PM
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Default Suggestions for new Budokai game for PS3 & 360

I know that DIMPS have dug a hole for themselves with BL & IW. Neither of the game were very well recieved due to some weird design choices.

Because of this I know that Namco Bandai are extremely hesitant to let DIMPS make another game so i'm making this so NM can hopefully pass this along so that DIMPS can possible make a Budokai game that fans of their series want and not what they think.

I feel as though if Naruto can have CONR & UNS that cater to both traditional fighting fans and ppl wanting a more authentic naruto experience then so can DBZ.

Anyway here it is:

GAMEPLAY

Shin Budokai Another Road should be the base of the gameplay system as it was the best evolution from B3. SBAR aura dash should be in with the same properties it had before, it costs ki and absorbs 1 hit. Rush & Smash attacks should stay but the extreme priority of Smash attacks should be fixed. Bring back pursuits how they were in SBAR

IMO SMASH attacks should have NO priority over Rush attacks; the only difference should be Smash attacks are slower, can be charged & can guard break when fully charged. SBAR's juggle system should also be in, which allowed alot more juggling than BL but doesn't allow infinites like B3 does. Also allow transformations to continue juggling air born opponents.

KI & FATIGUE SYSTEM

The Ki system should be like SBAR/B3 NOT auto-ki regen like BL. The fatigue system SHOULD be like BL. Also like in BL deathmoves should cost no ki. Mega Crash should be more like Barrier Burst in BlazBlue with its OWN bar instead of using the ki bar.

-Increase the damage scaling

-No aura spark, aura burn, hyper mode, super w/e modes AT ALL

-Increase regular dashing speed to how it was in SBAR; BL's dashing speed was WAY too slow

-NO dragon rush, stick twirling, button mashing sequences AT ALL.

FEATURES

Cancelling tutorial. Many ppl know about cancelling but not enough. A tutorial that teaches you about stuns, cancels and how they can be used would be great for new ppl getting into the game.

Also a Trial Mode similar to SF4 would be ideal. It would be able to show nice and effective BnB combos for each character.

ONLINE

A GOOD NETCODE. BL's was absolutely horrid, and after seeing RB there's no excuse for why BL's was so bad. Have DIMPS ask Spike what they did to achieve the netcode they have because online is useless if its laggy.

6-person lobbies would also be good, of course with the ability to change that number however you want let it be 6, 4 or 2 ppl. 8 person tournament mode that allows everyone to vote on whether certain characters shouldn't be allowed. Allow the option for matches to go 1 at a time so everyone can watch each match or everyone plays their matches at the same time.

*Records replays of matches and starts to deleted matches after 20 unless you save them.

Also a online training. I don't understand why fighting games haven't done this yet. Instead of telling someone about something you figured out, you 2 can hop in an online training session and can show them and chat back and forth about it.

* - Its not a neccessity but it would be good

CONTENT

Of course the standard story mode but cutscenes need to be like B1 not what DIMPS tried to pull in BL with all the recycled scenes. DIMPS going only up to the Cell Saga was a mistake. The roster should be that of SBAR like Pikkon, Future Gohan, Trunks (with sword & fighting Trunks as seperate characters because that was a good idea) etc. Trial modes and tournament mode should also make a return

Well that's about it.

UPDATES

-Balance the damage between physical attacks & DMs. The DM at the end of a combo shouldn't be doing more than half of the damage. Make it not awful to not end a combo w/ a DM.

-Make combos shorter. SBAR is good at this, BL was even better. Budokai games are pretty quick moving, but I think having overly long combos kind of slows the pace down unnecessarily. This could be done a couple ways, either by making baseline ki comeback faster, or doing a couple things w/ scaling to make doing these extremely long silly combos/infinites not practical in the actual game.

-Adjust the ki amount that attackers gain while comboing. Especially if DM's are free. When you stand to lose 1/2 life per combo, and use a almost half your ki escaping everytime, it creates a slippery slope to losing, since the ki game is deep in the other player's favor.

-Make moves track less so normal sidesteps are more viable. Moves like Axe kick shouldn't turn if the other player sidesteps.

credit for these suggestions comes from me, Aneila, THTB, Forte and Thales from DBC (http://dbcompetitive.forumotion.com/)

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Old 11-20-2009, 11:24 PM
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Yes, Yesss!
Give Burst Limit "All" of the cut-scene's!
Take all of the cut-scenes out from Raging Blast and replace them with close-ups and keep the game completely real-time.I hate those damn cut-scenes that always take the difference out of My ultimate blast.
If Adult Gohan hits Broly with his Super Kamehameha, the camera should remain the same for both players.Then, from Gohans offensive view, you should see Goten Flash in and start helping while Broly, on the defensive view, seems to be holding Gohan's blast off.Then, Goten should begin helping and right as the Kamehameha starts growing larger, Gohan's camera should move from behind him and zoom in on Broly's astnished face.But not just any type of zoom, make it seem like it's someone else's view, as if their moving.Make the camera move like a person was holding it and trying to keep it steady.At the same time that this is happening, Broly's camera should pan out from behind him and zoom in on Gohan and Goten's faces(Epic zoom like Nuova Shenron's intro in BT3), then zoom out and show all of them from a higher view battling.Last, both characters camera angles should show Goku telling Gohan and Goten to give it their all as the blast engulfs then finally disintegrates Broly's body(If it's a finisher).
No setting Triggers for the moving of characters from point A to point B for the cut-scene.All done with the same camera just edited lovely to make a beautiful experience.
Namco Bandai should put Dynamic camera's in RB2 so they can finally leave those last-gen cut-scenes and step into Next-Gen with the Dynamic camera angling.Step into the future guys.Cut-Scenes suck!
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And please honestly try and see what I'm trying to say before shooting my little opinion out of the sky guys.Cut-Scenes are not cool!Their repetitive!
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:44 PM
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Ok............but why did you have to jack my thread to talk about your idea???

I was seriously hoping I wouldn't have to deal with this kind of stuff when I posted this
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Old 11-20-2009, 11:54 PM
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I'll be honest I didn't read your post in full but I like the idea behind making it traditional/anime or as I like to call it hardcore/casual. But then again if you played B1-3 you'd know those games are just that. Loading the game with a simple and responsive scheme then you can get anyone to play. Make unlocking easy and and give customization a leveling up structure and you have yourself a game. Even the customization in BT2 and B3 weren't stellar I felt my characters were still my own. Thats just my take on it though.
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Old 11-21-2009, 05:23 AM
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Old 11-23-2009, 03:03 PM
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no wya DIMPS make me ue suck at makeing dbz we all want raging blast 2 2010 novbmer i dotn new bduoaki tne have to wtt tle 2011 jsut to paly raging blast 2 no way mak2 oen or i sotp get dbz gmaes
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Old 11-23-2009, 05:22 PM
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no wya DIMPS make me ue suck at makeing dbz we all want raging blast 2 2010 novbmer i dotn new bduoaki tne have to wtt tle 2011 jsut to paly raging blast 2 no way mak2 oen or i sotp get dbz gmaes
I knew this was going to happen but i didn't make this thread to please members here; I did this so NB can see ppl care for DIMPS' games and all we want is a game that's balanced and fun to play.

DIMPS made mistakes but if they could have the chance to see what we want they would be able to make a game that we could stick with longer

Any i updated the first post
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Old 11-23-2009, 10:38 PM
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any game he make suck you cna do huff what you cna do in raging blast in burst limit the fighters look like toys we all want raging blast 2 in 2010 not game by that guy had with hsi and games eh cant make games to please me or any one jsut make raging blast 2 and 3 it can be so good am not wtt tel 2011 for raging blast 2 raging blast 2 need to come out 2010

and if the budokai guy made if he made new game he just rip us off stop at buu saga or not have any cool suff n way i jsut wnat raging blast 2 3

am not wt gonit to be at buu saga tell 2011 2010 november yes but 2011 if that happen i stop getting dbz games the budokai guy his made 1 suck 2 suck 3 was OK burst limit suck iw sucks he jsut cnat make one game i like

so please nbga make raging blast 2 3t 3 out sell any if his game and raging blast out sell any if his game that show you he cant make good game i jsut want raging blast to be big roster have all i want raging blast 2 his to have gt

kid goku gt vegeta omag ice nova ice suepr 17 baby vegeta bojack cooler metal cooler evil buu Kai pwoer gohan
janmba big bellow guy form movie 13 grlaic jr salt spice vigner Ado kaod aka hakcyak ssj3 teen gohan ssj4 broly

ssj2 kid goten ssj2 kid trunks ssj3 vegito keeping ssj3 vegeta and ssj3 broly Debora need in kid goku gruin mummy man blue king piccolo lord sug gt pan gt uub some enw attack way more stages like room if time

way more outfit like

kid gohan 1purple gi 2goku gi 3Long hair with head band 4long hair 5sayain armor 6 white shirt with red pants movie7
teen gohan 1 purple gi 2 Wittie shirt with black pants 3 sayain armor 4 goku gi 5 purple gi with no white suff aorund
his neck and 6 piccolo cape rip gi 7 8no shirt with black pants

kid goten 1goku gi 2 dark blue gi 3 movie 13 Wittie shirt with gry pants 4 goku friends return blue shirt with red Slavs
5 rip gi 6goku gi no shoes
kid trunks 1 green gi 2 green shirt with blue shorts 3 movie 13 blue shirt with Wittie shorts 4 rip gi 5 no shirt with green pants
gt pan 1red shirt with gry pants 2 no bandanna 3 red gi you see all this need to be in rb2 and dragon fist and goten trunks base double Kamehameha goten trunks ssj big tree Kamehameha goku goten gohan family Kamehameha

kid trunks Kamehameha gotenks Kamehameha in ssj3 gt kid goku pan double Kamehameha majin buu bubble gum attack mouth blast super buu bubble gum attack mouth blast rr blue rope attack griun gum attack cell arm grab boajck arm grab

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Maybe not it'll just end up having to go to the buu saga instead of focusing of the series before the Z YEAH!! A Dragonball action/adventure game were you control Goku if done right this would be a huge change from the typical fighting genre.
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Default Suggestions for new Budokai game for PS3 360

that would b awesome if there was a budokai 4 i was never the biggest fan of tenkaichi, i thought budokai 3 was great imagine with new capabilities of these systems like ps3 the quality of transformations, cut scenes, fighting everything. They should make like a complete game every character in the series of gt and z and add new effects like ground rumble during charging...and of course online play. Instead of having 4 characters for goku they should make it 1 character that could have ingame transformations and during the select a character different costume selections. I guess all im saying is a new improved budokai 3 with every character in the gt and z series with online play and a bit more in depth story, and a bit new effects like ground rumble and more destruction lol. I guess im just a bit bored now and felt like posting this, but im coming a break from dragonball z since i havent really like any other game in the dragonball z series that came out after budokai 3
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