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Old 11-03-2009, 10:33 PM
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I personally think the game is gorgeous. You obviously have no idea how much work it would be to re-release the game in 1080p.

Also why not focus on what matters like smooth fps and AN ONLINE MODE THAT F*CKING WORKS
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Old 11-03-2009, 11:21 PM
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1080p is just about impossible at this level of detail while maintaining 60fps on obsolete hardware like the PS3 and 360.

The hardware that prevents this, not Namco.

However, there is a LOT of details they could have done. Facial animations are still years behind the curve. Breathing animation is still non existent. And the weather has absolutely no effect on the characters. Even VF5 had characters that got wet in the rain. Speaking of water, having it actually react on stages like the jungle would have been nice too. All that and more can be done at 720p while maintaining the detail and frame rate.

Its difficult to say, but it does look like T6 "cheats" the resolution game a bit even at 720p. Its just not as sharp as SCIV or SFIV by comparison. Perhaps its a lack of any FSAA (perhaps traded for excessive bloom). However, I will say that T6 has better lighting than SCIV, but SCIV has superior modeling and texture variations, though T6 has a better skin texture overall.

Anyway, 1080p in this generation is limited to simple modeled games. The PS3 and 360 just cant fill 1080p with the level of detail we expect. And since the vast majority STILL play on SDTV, the games look better when they go for detail over resolution. 1080p will not be the standard until the next generation ... if it EVER gets here.

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Old 11-04-2009, 01:35 AM
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Okay. I did a bit of research and apparently, Microsoft payed Namco to keep tekken sub-HD for ps3 so that xbox360 doesn't look like ****. This is pretty disappointing. Namco is never going to re-release this game, so hopefully, they give us many patches and dlc to make up for it.
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Old 11-06-2009, 01:20 PM
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DeathCom you did some research on the games I can tell, I also do work in graphics and use some 3D software. I do understand the problem with a full 1080p game on these consoles but Tekken 6 was originally released on PS3 hardware at the arcades and both of the arcade versions are set to 720p without any upscale. I love Tekken and yes for me the gameplay comes before the graphics but they could have at least left the graphics from the arcade release intact... Below are some links so you can see the problem with the up-scaling they used and to all the people who blame MS don't. The arcade version looks so smooth and clean checkout the bottom link for yourself.

PS: Please visit the GameSpot forums as I simply gathered these materials from their information I simply posted this here to garner the attention of the developers at Namco/Bandai and the Tekken DEV team.

CONSOLE INFO
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/di...game-blog-post

ARCADE T6
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen012.jpg

ARCADE T6BR
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen004.jpg

CONSOLE T6
http://image.com.com/gamespot/images..._screen005.jpg

ARCADE T6BR VIDEO
http://challenger.jp/mp4/tekken6br_20091024.html

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Old 11-06-2009, 03:24 PM
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.....some reasons, the Arcade Version actually looks better than Consoles. If the Arcade Version does run in 720p, the PS3 should be able to (because it's PS3-Based Hardware). It's possible for the PS3 to achieve 1080p while not upscaling, even MGS4 runs in 1080p without upscaling. A lot of 360 games are upscaled, and isn't in their natural resolutions... so really in this gen, only the PS3 can Output True 1080p HD. Like seriously, just look at Uncharted 2! IF Tekken 6 is made as good as Uncharted 2 (same size level, NO INTALLATION NEEDED, fast-loading times, better graphics and textures, face expressions, etc.) well then Namco could have made the ultimate Graphic Fighter... but no...they didn't. If Tekken 6: Bloodline Rebelion comes out on PS3, we hope Namco follow Naughty Dog's development...of a PS3 GAME!

...watch this video, PS3 can achieve 1080p:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MakQp...F783CF6F6CF70A


...Tekken 6 should be updated, and we all know that Tekken 6 isn't delayed by 1 year to be polished... has to run in a Low resolution, in order for the game to run on the 360 too... (or possibly Namco plans to create Tekken 6 on Wii). In a resolution like that, and the Graphics of the game, even Galaxy looks better than Scenario Mode. Tekken 6 graphics? It's not bad, but it's not good either.

It's too early to have a Tekken 6 re-release, and it would be better for updates instead.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:18 PM
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videophiles can be so fn picky. If you can tell the difference between 500,000:1 contrast ratio and a 1M : 1 contrast ratio than you spend too much time staring at LCDs at best buy.
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Old 11-06-2009, 06:25 PM
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Quite disapointed with the graphics to be honest, I was expecting so much more. It doesn't look no better than Dead Or Alive 4 .. which was released in 2005.
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Old 11-07-2009, 04:20 AM
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Yes you can make it have the proper resolution just do a remake re-release like SF does every couple of months call it the home release of Tekken 6 BR since you decided to call this one Tekken 6 and please don't disappoint your fans anymore or you will find that we will no longer continue supporting you...
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While I love Tekken, I will not buy another copy of the game for something they should have fixed in the first place. I would rather have free DLC to make up for the mess. And SF does'nt come out every 2 months, the new SF IV is stated for a march 2010 release which would be one year from feb 2009. The box on the 360 case tells you Tekken 6 is compatible with 720p, 1080i, and 1080p HDTV's so I don't know what your saying, perhaps the graphics are just not that great and we see it for what it is.

This is not a bash, I love Tekken but re-releasing something they should have fixed in the first place is not gonna make me happy and will tick the community off big time. I would never support such a scheme. Just fix the online, thats all I care about and make sure the next tekken (fingers cross for Tekken Tag 2) has simply much better content on par with my Tekken classic favorite Tekken 3 and Soul Blade.
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Old 11-07-2009, 10:33 AM
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Dear Team Tekken:

Please re-release Tekken 6 and make it a proper HD game not this up-scaled gargle of standard definition I currently own... for shame Tekken team... I am a devout Tekken fan and supporter and I must say I am appalled with how shoddy the graphics are for this console release. Your arcade edition of Tekken BR is true 720p and you should demand no less for your home ports on the HD systems especially since Tekken DR on PS3 is 1080p not up-scaled but true 1080p.

Yes we will buy it if you fix the bugs and make it have offline co-op multiplayer in scenario mode like you stated months ago and yes we want the option to adjust the HUD like in other Namco fighters aka Soul Calibur. Yes you can make it have the proper resolution just do a remake re-release like SF does every couple of months call it the home release of Tekken 6 BR since you decided to call this one Tekken 6 and please don't disappoint your fans anymore or you will find that we will no longer continue supporting you...

Thank you for releasing great games and please keep your quality at a level you would expect for such a great franchise.

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Read the back of the box. IT IS 720p you jackoff!
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Old 11-07-2009, 12:59 PM
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@rasdiggle, I have spent a little time playing the arcade version of T6BR and it is a lot sharper. Like SFIV and SCIV. People on the Zaibatsu forums are reporting 576p for the console versions.

I have personally noticed that if your turn motion blur OFF, on the PS3 version it gets sharper. Perhaps not quite 720p, but its certainly better looking. I should try it on the 360 next chance I get.

@BLuFAlc0n two things, MGS4 is upscalled from 720p to 1080p (badly I might add, just like Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2. The PS3s hardware scaling is so bad that I would seriously need to disable 1080p output to get my TV to upscale those games for me (smoother and better). Bottom line there, the 360 has a FAR better scaler. Keep in mind this has nothing to do with a consoles native ability to create 1080p imagery. There are PSN games on the PS3 that are true 1080p and look fantastic, Wipeout HD probably being the best 1080p experience there is on a console, peroid.

Second thing, that dude on youtube, his video proves and shows nothing about resolution. This is what you get with a little knowledge and an assbackward way of applying it. He is using the photo viewer app on the consoles to test. All it proves is that the PS3 more easily displays 1:1 resolution. Its highly likely that the 360 photo viewer tries to apply some AA to every image and does not display every pixel at 1:1. The photo viewer is not a diagnostic tool, that's all I'm saying there.

In the end, all we do know is that T6 looks better in the arcade on hardware similar (keyword SIMILAR) to a PS3. Perhaps that similar hardware has a full 7900GTX coupled with the Cell. Nvidia wont release exact specs on the RSX but we know its based on the 7900. Keep in mind that GTX has a significant advantage over even the GT version of the 7900. We know that John Carmack has said that the 360 GPU is flat out better than the PS3 GPU, especially in terms of pixel fill rate. So the question remains, was the PS3 version intentionally crippled to match the 360 version? Or was it the other way around?

In any case, this just proves that this console generation is long overdue to end. Sure, they could make marginal improvements to the graphics here and there, but nothing that would give that wow factor. The 360 is coming up on its 5th year of service. Consoles today are FIVE generations of GPU technology BEHIND! We are seriously overdue for new hardware... damn economy holding things up. At least with this absurdly long console generation, developers like Namco will have the time to work on issues like their facial, breating, and reaction animations. As well as physics of interacting with the environments. Today's multi core consoles have not been fully tapped in those respects yet.

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