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Old 09-01-2009, 11:46 AM
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Default I don't understand Broly SSJ and LSSJ state

why's SSJ Broly's hair's blue instead of gold, while, LSSJ Broly's hair's gold, and shouldn't SSJ3 Broly's hair be blue cuz SSJ Broly's hair's blue and shouldn't SSJ3 Broly be weaker than LSSJ Broly cuz SSJ4 beats LSSJ beat SSJ3 beats SSJ2 beats SSJ 2nd Stage beats SSJ beats normal state. hope you understands me.
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why's SSJ Broly's hair's blue instead of gold, while, LSSJ Broly's hair's gold, and shouldn't SSJ3 Broly's hair be blue cuz SSJ Broly's hair's blue and shouldn't SSJ3 Broly be weaker than LSSJ Broly cuz SSJ4 beats LSSJ beat SSJ3 beats SSJ2 beats SSJ 2nd Stage beats SSJ beats normal state. hope you understands me.
I think I do understand you:

Basically, the LSSJ state was introduced in the movie, making Broly the sayan from the legends (He is THE super saiyajin), the one that arises every 1.000 years.

So, they needed to make Broly look different, hence his green LSSJ hair.


The last statement is confusing though: I think you are wrong. He IS a LSSJ3, not just a normal SS3 (Like Goku or Gotenks), so his power level should be higher (At least in theory).
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I think I do understand you:

Basically, the LSSJ state was introduced in the movie, making Broly the sayan from the legends (He is THE super saiyajin), the one that arises every 1.000 years.

So, they needed to make Broly look different, hence his green LSSJ hair.

The last statement is confusing though: I think you are wrong. He IS a LSSJ3, not just a normal SS3 (Like Goku or Gotenks), so his power level should be higher (At least in theory).
You can't be a LSSJ3 that would mean that there would be 2 other LSSJs.
It's the 3rd base of his LSSJ state, hence his green hair like you stated.
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Old 09-01-2009, 02:35 PM
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You can't be a LSSJ3 that would mean that there would be 2 other LSSJs.
It's the 3rd base of his LSSJ state, hence his green hair like you stated.
LOL, how's that different from what I said?. He is a LSS3, not like goku or gotenks. . . .
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The reason he has green/blue hair, is because he is being controlled. Like you see that specialize equipment on his head right, that is what Paragus is using to keep Broly under control. Though when he is free, as you see in Broly the Second Coming, he has blond hair just like the other sayians.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:34 PM
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The reason he has green/blue hair, is because he is being controlled. Like you see that specialize equipment on his head right, that is what Paragus is using to keep Broly under control. Though when he is free, as you see in Broly the Second Coming, he has blond hair just like the other sayians.
Explain why his LSSJ state has limegreen hair, and this is all without that thing on his head that is suppose to control the dude.
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Old 09-02-2009, 12:44 PM
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LOL, how's that different from what I said?. He is a LSS3, not like goku or gotenks. . . .
Legendary Super Saiyan is a Title, not a form.
SSJ is a form, LSSJ is a Title.

This title can contain states such as "3rd Base" or heck, even " 4th Base".

Forms and states/status are 2 different things.

The Super Saiyan could refer to any saiyan that is in his Super Saiyan Form.
The Legendary Super Saiyan refers to Broly, this is what makes it a Title.

If you'd say LSSJ3, you'd refer to Broly as LSSJ3.

I.E : Look, he is the Legendary Super Saiyan 3. <<< This isn't correct, this means the 3rd Legendary Super Saiyan.

Another Example : The Legendary Super Saiyan made it to his 3rd base.

This means that he is in his 3rd form/state. Which is SSJ3

Broly > Controlled SSJ > Legendary Super Saiyan > 3rd Base Legendary Super Saiyan
Base > 1st Base > 2nd Base/ 1st base LSSJ> 3rd Base/ 2nd Base LSSJ.

This should clear things up.
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Old 09-02-2009, 04:39 PM
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Legendary Super Saiyan is a Title, not a form.
SSJ is a form, LSSJ is a Title.

This title can contain states such as "3rd Base" or heck, even " 4th Base".

Forms and states/status are 2 different things.

The Super Saiyan could refer to any saiyan that is in his Super Saiyan Form.
The Legendary Super Saiyan refers to Broly, this is what makes it a Title.

If you'd say LSSJ3, you'd refer to Broly as LSSJ3.

I.E : Look, he is the Legendary Super Saiyan 3. <<< This isn't correct, this means the 3rd Legendary Super Saiyan.

Another Example : The Legendary Super Saiyan made it to his 3rd base.

This means that he is in his 3rd form/state. Which is SSJ3

Broly > Controlled SSJ > Legendary Super Saiyan > 3rd Base Legendary Super Saiyan
Base > 1st Base > 2nd Base/ 1st base LSSJ> 3rd Base/ 2nd Base LSSJ.

This should clear things up.

Playing semantics huh?, here goes:

By that same logic, saying Goku is Super Saiyan 3 means he is the THIRD super saiyan, when he is actually a Super Saiyan past an ascendend saiyan (Or super saiyan 2) . . . .

So, instead of saying Super Saiyan fase 3 (Wich actually they do one time), they just call it Super Saiyan 3.

The same is true to broly. Since he is THE legendary Super Saiyan, the same applies when he achieves the SS3 fase, effectively making him Legendary Super Saiyan fase 3. And then, we would end up calling him just LSS3.

BUT, I get what you mean. . . . . . .

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Explain why his LSSJ state has limegreen hair, and this is all without that thing on his head that is suppose to control the dude.
In his first appareance, SSJ Broly has greenish hair because of the mind control devise that Paragus uses to manipulate him. When he transforms into LSSJ, his hair retains some of the green pigment. However, in the second movie, Broly?s hair is golden in both transformations since the effects of the mind control devise have vanished completely.
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Playing semantics huh?, here goes:

By that same logic, saying Goku is Super Saiyan 3 means he is the THIRD super saiyan, when he is actually a Super Saiyan past an ascendend saiyan (Or super saiyan 2) . . . .

So, instead of saying Super Saiyan fase 3 (Wich actually they do one time), they just call it Super Saiyan 3.

The same is true to broly. Since he is THE legendary Super Saiyan, the same applies when he achieves the SS3 fase, effectively making him Legendary Super Saiyan fase 3. And then, we would end up calling him just LSS3.

BUT, I get what you mean. . . . . . .
Yeah, i guess i get what you mean too, but I think that broly doesn't have a legendary super saiyan form.

I.E : Broly has a super saiyan form, but also has a another form that can only be accomplished by The Legendary Super Saiyan.

The LSSJ exclusive form is stronger than the average form, because it's kind of equal to that of an SSJ2, but he can surpass that level in time.
The LSSJ exclusive form makes the User stronger on long terms, so eventually he could surpass a SSJ3.

His LSSJ form doesn't consume Ki, Gives him a power boost and makes him physically unbeatable.(Almost) If this SSJ 3 form of Broly is like the regular one, it would weaken him because his LSSJ state could surpass that level on a long term. However if this SSJ3 form of Broly is a more powerful version of his LSSJ state, that wouls make him stronger than every SSJ3 saiyan there ever was. He ket his limegreen hair so i'm assuming he is in his exclusive LSSJ state, which would mean that his powerlevel will rise in time making it equal to that of a SSJ4.

Broly has the potential to be the strongest in the DBUniverse if he was to stay in his LSSJ state for more then a year.

LSSJ = SSJ2 ( LSSJ has no Ki consumpion and gives a powerboost)
LSSJ on long terms = SJJ3 (Because his strenght increases with time)
LSSJ for more then a year = SJJ4 (This time could easily increase his powerlevel to that of a SSJ4.)

The LSSJ state is the best supersaiyan state there is, but only if used on long terms. If this SSJ Broly was to be a regular SSJ, his Ki would be consumed like that of every SSJ3, but if he is a 3rd base LSSJ, he would have immence strenght, speed and no Ki consumption which makes it the best SSJ form.

LSSJ state isn't an actual SSJ state, because it's exclusive to a LSSJ only which makes it special.
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